Tuesday, August 25, 2015

Lyon Double Sided Series (22?-181?)

[Author's note: #22 and #181 are the highest and lowest extreme we have had to work with and decode so far as of 11/10/11; please continue to update this as new information becomes available]





Cuts for Lyon #158: (Taylor# X118 [Ilco YH49])—23332
            1st Cut:           .090
            Spacing:        .097
                        1-- .274
                        2-- .248
                        3-- .222
(Although X118 works on this lock once cut, it is wider than the original blank used by the Lyon Company [.279” for the Lyon original, .295 for the Taylor X118]; allow for this if duplicating or cutting by code [perhaps even narrow the blank by ~.008 on either side on the Framon])

New Finds:
2/28/11—
160—21113
196—21223

11/10/11—
022--22311                029--31121                042--13221                050—32321
053--33321                057--12131                065--31231                105—23312
107--11122                145--12232                150--33232                154—12332
181--22313   

2 comments:

  1. having a problem finding that blank the numbers come up as a Yamaha blank

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  2. It is a Yamaha blank (Taylor/Ilco X118 = Ilco-EZ YH49 = Curtis YM-60 = Silca YH29). We have a wall in our shop devoted to foreign key blanks listed in the old Taylor number order (from 62A [old Rolls Royce] to V81V [old VW], then moving to the X1 to X269+ series which Ilco has managed to inherit) and find some similar blanks to match some of the strange Chinese stuff (like Lyons) that keeps coming in (and not finding updates from Framon/Genericode yet).

    We originally wrote this note in 2011, posting it to a blog in 2015, and obviously more blanks have turned up that might be closer to it. One of these mergatroid office blanks (if that's even a real word [?]) is Kimball's double sided series on the Ilco #1649/KB1 which I have discovered works rather nicely in some other oddball applications (I'm not certain that it would work for the Lyon key series here since their most shallow cut is .279" wide and the Kimball double-sided blank only goes up to ~.255"). As we have been doing, if you get the time and get some customers willing to leave stuff with you, experiment and take some good notes. Hopefully you can find other blanks that don't have to be modified as much as this one did....

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